Last Friday, we brought you Luke Ross: the costume maker who is now making $20,000 a month on Patreon bringing big games like Grand Theft Auto V And the Red Dead Redemption 2 to virtual reality. But the publisher of those games, Take-Two Interactive, didn’t seem to be amused — and Patreon is now threatening to suspend his account unless he plays the ball by removing the DMCA.
What does Take-Two want him to do? It’s not actually obvious, but it looks like Ross will have to remove his VR mods anyway.
Here is a transcript of the message Ross says he received from Patreon Wednesday morning, as provided the edge:
Jul 6 2022, 8:54am PDT
My name is Richard, and I’m calling you from the Patreon Trust & Safety Team
We recently received a copyright claim for works you make available on Patreon. Specifically, this claim comes from Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. , the parent company of Rockstar Games, Inc. and 2K Games, Inc. , which owns the rights to Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Mafia Definitive Edition that are used in your Patreon posts.
We ask that you remove all copyrighted work from your Patreon Page. If you are unable to remove these works in a timely manner, or if we have trouble determining the extent of potential infringement on your Page, we may suspend your account or the respective posts until all claimed material has been removed.
For more details on what you can do when you receive the DMCA on your Page, you can go here: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/208020666-What-happens-when-I-receive-a-DMCA-notification-of-claimed-infringement-
Please note that even if you file a counter notification, you will still need to remove the claimed content from your Page.
Thank you in advance for your understanding and addressing this claim. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Patreon’s trust and security
9 AM – 6 PM PT
You see, there’s not much room for negotiation there. Patreon clearly states that Ross should remove “all copyrighted work” even if he challenges it. And according to Patreon’s DMCA FAQ pagehe has only 48 hours to comply, although Ross tells us he was not actually provided with a copy of Take-Two’s DMCA takedown request and does not know what they are asking him to remove.
What is the broker to do? In a public blog postRoss says he doesn’t think it actually hosts any copyrighted material. “[N]One of my mods was made using software by Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. The mods are not intended to replace their games, nor are they a way to exploit Take-Two Interactive Software or Take-Two’s intellectual property or assets.” You must purchase the original game so they work.
But the “they’re just a mod” argument hasn’t stopped Take-Two before. he was there plank after, after plank From GTA V Edit campaigns, company So sue When the DMCA takedown wasn’t scary enough. Even Strauss Zelnick, CEO of Take-Two Defend the company’s behavior on the 2021 earnings call, in an effort to make it clear that Take-Two doesn’t necessarily hate mods. “However, if the economy is threatened, or if there is bad behavior, and we know how to identify that, we will issue a notice of removal,” he said. Back then, it seemed like the MOD’s campaign was paving the way for its re-mastery grand theft auto Toys; We have not heard of an official GTA V VR mode, but that’s right San Andreas Coming to VR. It’s possible that Take-Two thinks Ross’ mods will dry up demand for official VR titles.
Take-Two did not respond to our request for comment.
Since he’s on Patreon, Ross doesn’t have a lot of options, and he thinks he’ll probably have to remove every last mention of Rockstar games from the site even if Take-Two doesn’t explain himself a bit. Here’s how his post ends:
“[I]Left in the dark, I can only err on the side of caution, and won’t risk other games getting involved in the purge should Patreon choose to close my page. This means that all posts, images, guides, recommendations, tutorials and above all my VR mods for GTA V, Red Dead Redemption 2, Mafia: Definitive Edition, Mafia II: Definitive Edition and Mafia III: Definitive Edition will no longer be accessible. for download.
I refuse to believe that this is what Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. wants. , because that would be an extreme anti-clients and gamers move on their part. But I don’t get into a legal battle with them. If what they want is to assert their corporate dominance with players’ interests as collateral damage, I don’t have the power to stop them.
Patreon spokeswoman Ellen Satterwhite tells us the edge That the company will already be reaching out to Take-Two for more information on what is actually being claimed and has offered to connect both parties directly to clear things up. Part of a statement reads, “We very much hope that direct contact between the two parties will be fruitful.” the edge. Ross plans to try it.
We asked Patreon if the 48-hour deadline is still in place or if Ross can wait for Take-Two to make his demands clear before he cleans up the house.
Ross tells me he doesn’t regret doing it edge An interview, though, could spell disaster for his Patreon. “In the battle to spread the message that it is only the will (or lack of) of studios and publishers that prevents AAA games from being converted to VR, this is perhaps a sad but necessary step,” he says.
You can read more about that supposed battle in our original story.